This first episode of The ReInvention Podcast dives into the real starting line of every successful career and life transformation: CLARITY.
Todd Jason and Chris Thide break open the truth about why midlife reinvention feels so damn hard, why most professionals hit a wall, and why traditional career paths leave so many people burned out, bored, or quietly miserable.
They share personal stories from corporate exits, identity unraveling, and the uncomfortable (but liberating) process of rediscovering who you actually are beneath decades of expectations.
This episode explores how getting CLARITY works, why most people get it wrong, and how to create a powerful “North Star” vision that guides your next chapter.
You’ll hear the exact practices Todd and Chris use with thousands of Reinventors—including the surprisingly emotional “write your own eulogy” exercise—and why dreaming bigger than seems reasonable is the secret sauce for designing work and a life that lights you up.
If you’re in your 30s, 40s, or 50s – feeling stuck, uninspired, or hungry for more purpose, this conversation will feel like someone finally turned the lights on.
Whether you’re reinventing your career, considering a leap into entrepreneurship, or simply craving a more meaningful life, this episode shows you where the journey truly begins.
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Full Episode Transcript:
Todd: We are fighting against the stream to free our minds. And it’s a practice, but you gotta start, like start by doing it.
Chris: All right, Todd, what’s going on today? How you doing?
Todd: Doing great, man. I am super excited that we got together to launch this podcast on reinvention. And if you’re listening, this is our first episode, man. My name is Todd Jason, and this is my business partner. Chris Thide. And Chris man, like why are we doing this? Why did we decide to start this podcast?
Chris: Why do we decide to start this podcast? Because we want everyone to live the life that they want. I wanna live the life that I want. You wanna live the life that you want. Why else?
Todd: Well, I, I think, when we got together, you know, it was, we’re both career coaches, we’re helping people transition from careers that they’re either burned out, they’ve either been shown the door, people have been shown the door, you know, in corporate America, or a lot of people have already started.
To reinvent themselves. when we got together, man, it was really enlightening. And by the way, just so y’all know, this is our first podcast together. Chris and I met on TikTok, like two kind of middle aged mid professional guys, TikTok’n away, and I saw his videos and I was like, man, I just gotta reach out to that guy ’cause he’s talking about similar stuff.
And so that’s how this all started. And then here we go, we launched a community around reinvention. And now we’re launching a podcast around it because there really is a process. To getting to the other side. And like our core concept on this is that your next career move can be your best when you design it around who you want to become and not who you were.
And I know Chris, like as a person who went through a major reinvention, you know, something that worked in corporate for what, like 20 years? Yeah. You dealt a lot with that identity stuff like putting that past behind you and then trying to create this new version of yourself. So you wanna talk about that?
Yeah.
Chris: Yeah. And I think, I mean, first of all, I think that’s part of why, you know, we, we met on TikTok, why I was in a place where I said yes to like, let’s work together and let’s do this thing together. Is because I had done that work to lean into who I want to be or really who I am, and reveal the layers on top of who I had told myself I was supposed to be versus who I really am. And being able to embrace this new version of myself. I mean, that is reinvention, right? And I think I spent so much time in corporate kind of living to what I perceived other people’s standards or ideas were. For so long I really kinda lost who I was, who I wanted to be.
Right. And I, and I, that journey over the past, you know, really like 10 years has kind of been the focal point of that journey to, to this, to who I am and I’m still on the journey. And that’s the beauty of life is still being on the journey has been, super joyful, super abundant. It’s been just the coolest part of my life so far.
That’s what I really want for people. That’s why I’m doing what I’m doing. That’s why we’re doing what we’re doing is to help people find that joy. I’ll take issue with something before. Are we career coaches, Todd? Or is that. Part of the big picture thing that we’re talking about, and career is a major focal point for Reinventors, but I think it’s bigger than just career.
Todd: Well, I think you’re right on, man. I mean, we’re here to talk about like life transitions, living to your best self. Look, we’re all living with less than 10% of our potential in play right now. And I’ve been coaching, I never was in corporate, like my background is, I started working as a coach in the early two thousands, and I have had the benefit to work with people like Tony Robbins and Deepak Chopra and Eckhart Tolle.
Old school people who wrote big books a long time ago. And that started me on the path of developing curriculum and working with like literally tens of thousands of people, not only on career, but also on just life transitions and how do we do that? And I think what we want to do here, is talk about what we found really works the reason why I partnered with you.
It’s funny, like, so everyone just knows. When Chris and I started to kind of talk about this idea of doing a podcast and a community, he’s like, well, like, you know, like, why do you wanna work with me? I’m like, why me, Todd, why? Like, why me? I’m like brother, like. You are like the model of somebody who like was working in corporate, like literally did very well.
Like you are making bank brother, you really got up to a high level and then experienced what a lot of people do is burnout and then spent time going through this process of reinvention by yourself pretty much. And when we met, our first conversation was like. Wait a minute, like there’s actually a process here that you did that I’ve been kind of teaching that when we just kind of nail it, we can help people get to that reinvented self faster.
Right, right. So that’s the goal here, right? Is to help people get there faster.
Chris: I love, and I love that. I mean, I think it is, if you look at the stuff that we teach and work with people on in our community, it is, I’ve done all those phases or I’m go, you know, still some of them going through, it’s iterative.
But I didn’t have names for them. I didn’t really have clear concepts for them. And boy, it would’ve been helpful to have that framework seven or 10 years ago, right when I was first kind of dipping my toe into this idea of, Hey, this isn’t, this isn’t for me. Like what is for me? Exactly. And going through that, you know, that exploration process, right?
I mean, I’ll, I’ll actually say I never really made a, a decision in the beginning of my career as to what it was I was going to do for work. Right. It was really just kind of a little bit of, like Plinko, right? Where I just kind of found my way into something. It really was like just stumbling, bumbling, and then ended up in something when I was like 24. Kind of had circumstances of life that like made it good to be secure. And then I just kind of did that for 20 years. Like, you know, it evolved. I made the mistake of being good at it, so I got promoted, I got paid more money, I got enticed. I got sucked in. And like along the way I kind of lost myself
Todd: yeah,
Chris: right. And so I think that actually sad as that story may sound on some level.
That’s probably common to like 95% of people at least in in America or sort of like western culture.
Todd: Yeah. And what’s happening right now, man? Like you’re right on. Because that’s what I’ve been like dealing with people that just follow the script. They achieve the success externally, but like they’re not that happy on the inside and then they start looking for other things or they start questioning why.
But what’s interesting about this moment in time and why we launch reinvention now is that the shit has hit the fan a little bit, you know, especially with AI and what’s going on in the world. And we’re not gonna focus on all that, but reinvention is now being forced for a lot of people.
Yeah. And our whole stance of mine is at least, you know, I don’t wanna speak for you, you know, like a hundred percent, but that it’s actually an opportunity. It is reinvention is an opportunity to stop and be like, all right, what is it that would make me happy? What are my interests? What are my passions and, can I marry them with my money making and my abundance and my lifestyle?
Because most people didn’t do that, which is why you get that proverbial midlife crisis. And look, reinvention is a process. It’s a process that has a level of predictability to it. And you know, you don’t realize that when you’re in it because it’s stressful and you’re worried about money, and you’re worried about your relationships and your family.
But the whole point of doing this is that, oh, there’s a, there’s a game plan here. There’s a roadmap for reinventing myself and if I can just learn it. And latch onto it, I can start to experience some of these new levels of success and joy faster. Right. And so you kind of bummed your way through it over the last 10 years.
Yeah. But like, if you were to have this concept or these concepts, we’re gonna talk about. You would’ve gotten there faster.
Chris: Yeah. And, and again, we’re not saying it’s going to be easy, right? Mm-hmm. I think that’s a key distinction is we’re not saying it’s gonna be easy, but, but it, it is repeatable and it is a process.
There are certain areas and we call ’em tenets, that you have to tend to as you go through this and having that framework and being able to think about it, kind of like a territory that has a map really, really, really speeds you up. And also just gives you some confidence when you’re having the tough days to be able to say, Hey, you know what? Stay the course. There’s a plan, there’s a process here. Going back to where I said I didn’t really ever have intention with the work that I ended up doing goes back to like the first tenet of reinvention, which is clarity. Mm-hmm. Right? Which is, I never had really clear in my mind like, what am I doing this for?
What’s the North star? What’s the direction of travel? I just was sort of like, well, you know, the bills come, you gotta make money. I’m doing a thing. I’ll do more of the thing to make more money. But you know, in doing that for years and years, I never had like a real, like, what to what end?
What’s the destination or where’s the direction of travel, at least that I desire, that I want.
Todd: Yeah. And I’ll tell you this, man, all my years of coaching, that’s where I begin, right? Like people come to me and they say, you know, I’m not that happy, or I got issues, and I’m like, okay, let’s start with what do you want?
Like what would be an amazing life for yourself? What would be idyllic? Let me just like play that game with you for a minute. And people look at me with this blank face, like,
Chris: Yeah, how good do people do with that question? Zero, right? Because, ’cause at least maybe you’ve had different experiences than me, but my experience has been that when I ask a question like that, the first thing people start to tell me is what they think is possible.
Mm-hmm. Meaning? Meaning within the circumstances of everything in their life right now. What they think is like, could be the next incremental thing that they could potentially do. Right. And the question is actually, if there were no constraints, in a sense, if there were no incremental requirement. Like what do you want?
Todd: Exactly. So way bigger question. This is why reinvention has to begin with clarity and actually what it really begins with even right now as you’re listening to this, is permission to dream again, permission to get out of the trajectory that you’re in right now. Not like to change your whole life. It doesn’t mean that like everything’s gonna change overnight. It’s an exercise. It starts off with an exercise where you give yourself a moment to think really big about your life, your work, and you sense into what you want. And you mentioned this term before you mentioned the the word North star.
Okay. Like a big linchpin of the work that I do with people is giving them that permission. We have practices in our community that helps people do that, right? Because most people are not accustomed to it. Because we’re not trained that way in school. Like think about the trajectory.
You went to school and you were taught English and math and science, like look great subjects, but no one looked at you and was like, okay, like what do you want to do? Who are you? Chris? Like who are you? Todd? Like what do you wanna do with your life? Like in that bigger picture? And maybe some of you had parents that did that, but most of us didn’t.
Yeah. And that’s why we followed this path. And now we’re here midlife thinking, man, like what’s next? And so starting with clarity. Is so very important and we want to jump in, I think, to like how to actually do that. But I know you had some things to jump in on around clarity. Yeah.
Chris: Well you got to some, some topics that are near and dear to my heart, right?
Which is, you know, I’ll say that some of us had parents or systems that actually were trying to tell us what we should be, right? So there is that, right? And so then when you get to this concept of what people describe as a midlife crisis, I actually started to refer to it as a midlife revelation.
But I really do think that it is, it’s clarity, right? I think that what happens is when you, when you hit these ages, when you’re, you know, when you’re 40, let’s say you, you know a lot more about yourself than if the last time someone asked you like, what are you gonna be when you grow up, was when you were 11.
With all due respect, I have an 11-year-old. They don’t know. Mm-hmm. Right. But when you’re 40 or 45 or whatever it is, you, you do know a lot more about yourself. The problem for most of us is we’ve spent 20 years not engaging with that at all. Right, right. So I think that this is like. This is a moment in the world. Yes, and it’s a great moment in people’s lives. This time in general, this midlife time that you can tap into a clarity that you, you couldn’t access earlier in life.
Todd: I think it’s like the biggest opportunity, of of all, and I know there’s a lot of fear and doubt and uncertainty. Look, going through reinvention when you’ve already been on a trajectory is hard.
Chris said this before, we don’t have a magic pill that’s gonna, like, this episode is not, you’re gonna swallow this magic pill and all of a sudden. You’re gonna be exactly on the right path, like making tons of money, doing exactly what you wanna do. It’s a process. Okay,
Chris: We should put this behind a paywall.
If there’s gonna be a magic pill in this episode, right? Yeah. Quickly put it behind a paywall. Ridiculous.
Todd: I tell this to people all the time. I go, look, my work is not the sexiest work. Like I’m gonna give you the real predictable process, but like it’s not gonna be the thing. And you go on social media and everyone is talking about, oh, just do this one mindset shift.
Do this one supplement or whatever it is, and all of a sudden, and look, there are things that can help, but it’s incremental. Okay? And starting with clarity is the big lever. And I’ve seen magic happen. I’ve helped thousands of people get clarity. And the way that you actually start, and this is just a little bit of the teaching here, so if you’re listening to this, like take notes on this and take what we’re gonna share here to heart, because getting clarity is a thing and it’s an exercise where you get out of your own way.
And the way that I recommend people to do it is to carve out a day or even a weekend if you can, where you put all the typical work aside. And look, if you have a family, you’re gonna be a family person. I’m not saying like run away, but a personal retreat. You know, like some level of personal retreat.
Get out a notepad, get out some music, create some space for yourself, and allow yourself to think about the question. What do I want to do? What would make me really happy for my work, for my life, for my adventures? Like just give yourself that moment in time to create a much larger canvas for what’s possible for yourself.
And while you’re doing it, you’re gonna meet all this stuff. Well, that can’t happen. Well, this can’t happen. You’ll see how the limitation comes in. But the most important thing about this exercise is just to allow yourself the space to dream. Like have it be fun. Have it be imaginative. Like use your imagination.
Like you gotta reinvent by starting there. Okay. Trust me on this, like, this is so very important just to give yourself that time and the space. It’ll speed up the process. And before I hand it over to you, the one thing that’s so fascinating about creating this North star, as we call it, like this life vision.
Okay. Which is just a fun exercise, something that you can actually have out there. Is that I say it becomes magnetic because when you actually start to put that out there, like it’s amazing what happens. And I’ll give some examples of people that I’ve worked with where it’s like, wow, all of a sudden the right people start showing up or some of these synchronicities start happening, or you kind of like get an email from somebody that’s more aligned with that vision and slowly but surely you start to understand that wow, there’s really some magic here where whereby I’m putting out there that like, this is what I envision or what I want. And then life starts to show these things to you in the most incredible ways you know? And when that starts happening, you go for it because then you start to see, wow, there’s something more here. And it really is what I would consider to be a predictable process.
Chris: if you’re just hearing this now and you’re just kind of thinking about, oh yeah, maybe I will do that little, that clarity exercise. Mm-hmm. I’ll do that mini retreat or whatever it is. I’m going to tell you the first thing that you think of, or the first things that you start to think of.
Allow yourself to get a little weird. Mm-hmm. Allow yourself to get outta your framework and outta your realm. I mean, I, I talk about this in the career area a lot where someone’s like coming to me and they’re an accountant and they’ve been an accountant for 20 years and they’re miserable. And I’m like, in your wildest dreams, like, what could you be if you weren’t an accountant?
And they’re like an auditor. And I’m like, wild wilder, dude. Be wild. Be more wild than that. it’s because like people are very anchored. We’re all very anchored to like what we have been doing and who we have been in, and the personas that we have in our existing life. This is an exercise to, to unachor and I want you to write something weird that couldn’t possibly work.
You know? I want you to think about possibilities that are in your mind. Impossibilities.
Todd: Chris, I I gotta share the story because like when, when you just shared that. The one of the practices that is really, really powerful, and by the way, it’s like in our community, you know, like to actually get clarity, is this idea of writing your own eulogy.
Okay. You know, like really thinking with the end in mind. But doing that eulogy writing, if you don’t know what eulogy is, it’s what is written or said about someone when they pass. So you write your own now, you know, while you’re living and breathing, you know, and you do it with that idyllic lens. So you actually write that eulogy from the standpoint of looking back on your life as if you’ve lived and worked and achieved like beyond your dreams.
Okay? It’s a tool, it’s a practice that can help you access your imagination, okay? And you don’t do it with any attachment that any of it needs to happen. You just do it to get access to what you really want. That’s what we’re working at here, is just getting access to maybe some information that you really want.
So. Years back, I was running a program of men. It was actually a men’s group, and I had about 20 guys in this program and I gave them this practice. Okay. And then we got back on after the weekend, you know, and I was like, does anyone wanna share? Is anyone brave enough to share in this? One guy raised his hand and I can’t remember if he was an engineer or an attorney, like really nice guy and he was kind of quiet and I was surprised that he had raised his hand.
And he’s like, I’ll read mine. And he starts reading his eulogy like this, this imaginative, idyllic, like, you have freedom now to imagine your life. And he is like, well, you know, John Smith, you know, worked in up until he is 52 years old. He was fortunate enough to retire around 63, and his wife and him moved down to Florida and they had a little cottage.
And you know, at 74 he got cancer. That’s what he said. I swear. And he got cancer and you know, his wife took care of him. Then he eventually died. And, and, and then he stopped and everyone in the room was just like looking at him. And it was like, and I said to him, I’m like, that’s your ideal life that you die at, like 77 and we just went into it and he started laughing, which was cool. Right? Because like he saw. Like how ridiculous it was. And I’m like, that’s not the exercise. The exercise is just for fun to dream big. And guess what happened with this guy? I gotta just share very quickly. The guy was a game maker.
Like in his spare time, like he was like this comic book game maker. I don’t know. He was very creative like that we didn’t even know about. And his real dream was to figure out how he could do more of that. Maybe make money. And so in his eulogy practice, he went off explaining how he was able to like write these new comic books and it turned into this game and X, Y, Z or something like that.
Things started happening and the guy two years later ended up leaving his career, like on good terms. Like, I think he was close to retirement, you know, and, and started some new venture with a bunch of people that he met, and he was like over the moon, you know? And he basically had written me back and said, Hey, like I’m giving that practice the credit, because I never would’ve even imagined that that was possible.
And it opened me up to the idea that maybe just maybe something different could happen.
Chris: It starts with maybe, it really does. I mean, I think it starts with just, I, I love that. That’s an awesome story. Right? And it’s almost like I never told me that one, did I? I don’t ever though projection, his projection was like actuarial.
Like he was like, statistically, it’s likely that I will die in my seventies. Right? But this and that and like, and I think that’s not what this is about, right? This is about, man, it all comes true, the hopes and dreams in your heart. Honestly, I’ll tell you this, honestly, I think most people who, they hear this sort of thing. Can’t even easily access what those hopes and dreams really are down there. Right. Like I know, I mean, I’ve, I’ve done this eulogy practice fairly recently, and I’ll be honest, it’s been a couple of months at, I, I don’t know that I was fully honest and open with it. And I think that there’s a, it’s worth revisiting because it was like 85% of what I want and imagine and could in my wildest dreams, I think there’s some things there I can’t even really admit to myself I want. Right. See that, that now we’re getting into the deep shit, right?
Todd: Yeah. I mean this is what it is like, I mean, how fascinating. We got the guy running the podcast who’s a great coach saying, yeah, like I did it and like it is still hard for me to access.
It’s not that easy to access, like we are fighting against the stream to free our minds. And it’s a practice, but you gotta start, like start by doing it. Like literally hope you’re motivated to like, take this on. Like spend a day, spend a weekend, like really thinking about this and writing your eulogy and like, check it out because you’re gonna see, it’s not that easy for a lot of people.
For some people, by the way, it, it’s very easy. They, they, it’s like it just comes right out of them.
For some people it’s like, oh my God. Like, thank you for giving me this practice. Like I just. This was all there, but I didn’t have it organized. So there is a gamut. There’s a, there’s a spectrum here of how it happens, but for a lot of people it isn’t that easy, you know?
And it is worth revisiting, Chris, like it’s something that I do every single year. And I will say I’ve been doing it for a long time, is that it always unfolds to deeper and deeper layers. And you know what else is interesting about it? For someone that’s done it for a long time, for like over a decade. Is that I do have a sense of what my purpose and essence is. It doesn’t mean that I’ve like manifested and created it all, but there is through lines. Yeah. That you find out about yourself. Yeah, and a lot of it is what you said, it’s like just being honest with yourself. Like is this is not something that you need to then go out and start a TikTok account like we did and like start sharing with it.
It’s that what I’m saying here, we’re saying do the practice, start with clarity. That’s where reinvention must begin because there’s old identity that needs to be confronted and transcended for you to land in that next career path that marries your purpose and your passion with your money making. And that’s the game that we’re playing here.
Chris: For sure. A hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. And I love, I love the idea of it being iterative and, and this, because I, I hope to be evolving such that in a year from now, if I revisit it, there’s new discoveries I’ve made about myself and who I am as a, the more I lean into to this, the more I’m finding and, and I like the idea, yeah, there’s through lines there because I think, again, no matter how hard I tried to inhabit the persona or the identity that I thought was the right one in the corporate world for 20 years underneath it all, there was always the core me down there.
for me, I guess I’ll just say thank goodness that it continued to burn, right. And it still was there throughout all that time. And then I was able to tap into it and be like, Hey, let’s actually honor that guy.
That’s the real guy.
Todd: You know what I love about the clarity process more than anything? And I, this wasn’t expected when I started teaching this and doing it myself, is that. It’s not just like the getting the life vision, right, which is great. It’s also like it creates the energetic of excitement and optimism.
Because it actually gives you something like really big to maybe look forward to. And I think that’s such an underrated thing in our world. Like we are surrounded by so much negativity in the news. You know what I’m talking about, right? There is just so much that is beating us down from feeling excited and optimistic.
And this practice just gives you an opportunity to look out beyond the horizon of your life and your past and all the negativity and say, what is possible? And here’s what I found on it, is that by having that North star, it gives you some level of intrinsic motivation. To get through the hard stuff because reinvention is not always easy and we’re gonna talk a lot about that on this podcast.
Like it is not all roses. You may try stuff and fail. You may like listen to what we say and like go out there and like, oh my God. And then like it doesn’t happen and then have to redirect like.. It’s a process, but when you have that thing out there that you can connect with from time to time, it gives you that inner strength and fortitude and excitement to keep on going.
And that’s, a very underrated quality of it.
Chris: Yeah, that’s huge. Excitement is so important, right? That’s something I was lacking when I was doing work that was not aligned to who I was. Boy, were the bad days really hard, right? I did not have the key, I think is intrinsic motivation. Mm-hmm. I had a lot of, you know, extrinsic or external motivation of gotta make the money to provide for the family, or, you know, this is the right thing to do to climb the ladder in my career. Very sort of cognitive like Right. Things to do. A lot of shoulds in there.
Mm-hmm. I hate shoulds, but they’re, they’re in there and then. Now I’m in a world that is really much more intrinsically motivated ’cause like I care so much about what I do. I’m so excited to talk about this. I love working with people and coaching people. I love our community. Like there’s still hard stuff I have to do.
There’s still like kind of unsavory, not enjoyable work I have to do. It’s still technically hard work, but it’s easier to do with the intrinsic motivation of like, here’s why. Yeah, the why matters so much to me. And, moving towards the North Star that I care about. That is what I want to accomplish with my one life on earth.
Like it’s a hell of a lot easier to get through like the paperwork when you have that.
Todd: That’s why you and I both love sports, right? You know, because it’s like with sports you see professional athletes or teams, it’s like really easy, like winning the championship and like that’s very motivating and it’s very clear.
Now. Most of us don’t have that. You know, I had the honor to work with a couple of Olympic athletes years back and like I can tell you straight up that their life is not easy, you know, and they are literally killing themselves, to train to be able to do that. But their vision is so clear.
It’s like standing on that podium. Putting that gold medal around their neck with like 20,000 people singing the national anthem and tear streaming down their face. Right? Like, I’m getting the chills thinking about it. We all get it. That’s their North star. And that allows them, it fuels them to be able to do the hard work of doing it.
It’s the same with any athletes, you know, and you can apply that in your life is the point. Like you have to artificially do that because most of us aren’t Olympic athletes. I’m not. Right. So the way that you artificially create that is by doing the work to get clarity to create that vision that is exciting. And it just pays so much dividends. And look, when it comes to reinvention, that’s the beginning, which is why I think we wanted to start this first episode that way. But it’s not the end. Is it Chris? Right? Once you get that vision, you know, we don’t just leave you hanging because guess what?
I’m gonna give you a little secret. I say it really clearly around this practice, just do it for fun. Don’t be attached to any of it. None of it has to come true. But once you do it, like, wouldn’t it be interesting if some of these things could come true? I don’t know, wouldn’t it be like fascinating if you could reinvent your career that was aligned with who you want to become and not who you were in the past wouldn’t that be an interesting thing? And there’s other things that we do that we’re gonna talk about on this podcast. That will kind of ground in some of this clarity that we’re getting here, right?
Chris: Yeah, it’s like finding your why and then, then we’re gonna ask you why not.
Mm-hmm. Then we’re gonna ask you why you can’t do that, why you can’t make that come true. and yeah, I think we also get into, we won’t do it today, but we also get into, in our community and in some of the things we’ll talk about in this podcast. How to make it reality and, and that you have to have a plan and a path to get there mm-hmm.
To whatever your version of that is. Right. And you know, we start with this really sort of ideal concept. And for most of us, there’s gonna be some incremental steps between here and there. Right. And like getting, you know, a real practical, clear plan that you can follow to get you there is part of what we do.
But again, it’s starting, untethered and thinking big and like really allowing yourself. I mean, this ties into this concept of what I, what I love or what we talked about. The idea of like, I want to find the limitation of my talent and my abilities, right? And I want to not be limited by fear or artificial limitations or, a lack of effort because I’m worried about being vulnerable or whatever it is.
And that’s really where this, this concept of starting with. Really no parameters or no ties around your vision of what you want is really important because all those like limitations can pop up really quickly if you don’t consciously say, Hey, you’re like not invited to this party.
Todd: That’s exactly right, man.
You know, and that’s why like I’ll even name them for people don’t understand. Chris and I have come up with six primary tenants for reinvention. This is the process. It’s a blueprint, right? So if you’re in a transition or one is coming and you know it. You can latch onto these six tenets.
And the first one is clarity, like what we just talked about today. The second one is growth mindset, right? And you’re, you’re gonna hear us talk a lot about that, like how revolutionary, two coaches talking about mindset. But it is really important and we have a very particular way that Reinventors need to think about and train themselves internally to orient with what’s happening in their lives and in the world.
And then the third is game planning, right? Like getting tactical, like what do we actually need to do, to make this reinvention happen? We’re not, you know, it’s not about just leaving you hanging with this like beautiful magnetic North Star. It’s actually like, what is my plan? What is, what is my roadmap for making it happen?
And then it becomes about taking action. That’s the fourth one. You gotta experiment. You gotta be out there. You gotta be trying, like this is go time, this is where we get motivated and like, all right, no, this is the time where we’re gonna step into discomfort and we’re gonna try new things and reach out to people that maybe we wouldn’t have in the past.
Because reinvention is on right now for so many people out there. And then the fifth one is building new skills. You gotta learn new skills because for a lot of people, reinvention is about hanging your shingle for the first time, starting consulting for the first time. Maybe you need to learn some digital marketing or you need to learn how to write a book, or you need to learn how to do X, Y, Z, or do social media or a personal brand. For a lot of people that kind of thing does tap into reinvention. And then the last one, which is so important, is getting accountability. Literally having people around you that are in that space that can support you, that you can also share your gifts and help them reinvent themselves. And so look, that’s why we built the reinvention community, right?
And because like in that community, we are literally helping people with these six tenets, like day in and day out. And if that’s interesting to you, feel free to check it out. You can come and hang with Chris and I. We’re not gonna beat it to a dead horse right now because this podcast is like really about just getting that information about step number one out there, clarity, which is just so primary.
But I, I did wanna share I guess the six tenets.
Chris: Yeah. It’s so exciting that, I mean, to have people in the community and as we’re talking to people and people are joining and just getting a little bit of people getting it, people being like, oh yeah, it’s so great for people who are kind of just starting their reinvention to hear from the people who are already a little further along. Mm-hmm. And that, that mix, and again, this is the community I wish I had 10 years ago. Right? Who knows, maybe I’d be further along in, in the journey, earlier in the path if I had done that, if I had that.
So that’s, that’s another thing. I just feel really excited to be able to give this to people. It’s a gift in a way to people who are, who maybe were in that same, like I said, midlife revelation moment.
Todd: Yeah, and we’re gonna close it out now, right? Because I think this has been really good, man.
It’s so good to have this first podcast with you, Chris, but you know, if you’re listening to this, you got to the end of this. I want you to really think about this statement that your next career can be your best if you design it based on the future version of you that really lights you up and not your past version, like that’s the key thing.
You said in the very beginning of this that this is not just about career reinvention, it’s about personal reinvention. And you’re right, because it comes from the inside out. And so that’s the game that we’re playing and I’m grateful to be working with you on it and, grateful to be working with all you out there that are hearing these words, we look forward to seeing you next time.
